Gloger neck for my 10M, now lives on my Buescher Aristocrat. Why buy a new neck anyway?

 

During the pandemic, which currently is still on, I bought myself a Gloger neck for my ugly old 1941 Conn 10M. I purchased it from JW Sax in Boston and had Kim at KB Sax in Long Island City install it properly (expand the tenon.) 

Kim as you may know makes fine necks for saxophones as well.

So, first of all, why buy a new neck? Doesn't the original work? Didn't all of those players back in the day just practice and get what they wanted out of their equipment? 

Well, yes. Of course they did. And I find myself agreeing with a lot of that wholeheartedly. Today we live in a world of hype, everything is pornified and there's more ways to empty your wallet and avoid doing the hard work of making good music showing up every day. It is what it is.

So what was I trying to solve with this purchase? 

First I was simply curious. I've spent a good deal of time with Kim at KB Sax, even rebuilt a Selmer amp for him once with the Varitone unit. I've tried a bunch of his necks and, well, they're problem solvers if used rightly. I played a couple of Tenor Madness horns there and found them typical of horns today: tanky and a bit, um neutral (bland, dull as dishwater....)..... But with some of his necks, changed everything. More color, excitement. The difference in not even considering making a purchase and possibly making that purchase. 

I prefer old American made horns myself. My favorites are the Art Deco Buescher Aristocrat and the early model Conn 10M. Some days it's Buescher, others it's Conn, but I overall prefer the richness of the Buescher over the size of the Conn. 

So I bought this neck to get the Conn to sound more like the Buescher. I can say that was largely achieved. I used it on some blues gigs with a Berg Bronze piece I recently acquired (selling! UGLY sound....).

What did it do for the Conn? Better tuning first of all. They have a tendency to play sharp. In fact both horns do. I'm used to them but anything to make life easier I'll gladly take. 

I did a recording session this September and could not get what I wanted out of the Conn. I switched to the Buescher and voila. Heaven. But then I put this Gloger neck on the Buescher.... totally different horn. 

First off, everything speaks easier. No, it's more "free blowing", which is something I don't care for. It still has that good Buescher 'back pressure" or resistance. But the notes speak more clearly. Pitch is better, there's just more horn there. It's now my current setup. 

I've switched from my expensive old Otto Link STM 7 to a New Vintage Slant #6. I have yet to get a more enjoyable setup than this. 

As for the Conn, since I switched mouthpieces I'm happy with the original neck. It's currently my second tenor and I'm happy with that as well. 

So like anything, try it and see for yourself. Mileage varies. I'm not one to believe hype myself but I am one to keep and open mind and try new things. Would my old heroes buy one? I imagine they would. Like my teacher, he never stopped experimenting, trying new sounds, finding new ways to play over a tune. I see it as one thing altogether. 

I also like pretty things. This neck is a work of art.... So if you are curious and can swing the price, give it a go. I should leave off with, no it didn't turn either horn into a Selmer which is something I wouldn't have wanted. It just brings out the best qualities of what is already there. That's what I was after and I think it was a success.

J

Down to 3 tenors!

Down to 3 tenors....

My 10M went to a good friend.

Now in order:

#1 Buescher Aristocrat
#2 Selmer Balanced Action for my 'sick days' or backup horn
#3 Conn New Wonder for fun in the street.

The Buescher still wins. It just has the most color and most guts. I've fallen for that horn. It's all good I went through so many as that one is the best I've had hands down. Even with the stencil neck from any one of many Elkhart Band Instrument Company horns, and with the snaps removed, this horn out does the nicer ones I've had. Curiously enough, I've always liked that neck. It looks like a 10M neck. I find they give me a bit more fatness than the stock neck.

The Selmer, I'm keeping for now. I've come to like that horn and I bought it at a good price. I'll take my time getting it on the bandstand. No hurry. And I've figured out the tuning for the most part. Low C can still be a bit sharp, but that's one note out of the rest. Okay to just lip it down. And I did adjust the low end B and Bb key heights so it's better.

The New Wonder, I just like having it around. Good reference to where I came from. There are so many out there that are good. This one has a great sound.

Why did the 10m go?

That was a great live horn. Probably worked best with my band. I generally don't use a mic unless it's absolutely necessary. The Selmer projects in a similar fashion. Since I've never owned one before I figure I'll give it a try and see why folks like my Uncle  and Dexter Gordon, both of whom played 10M horns, both of whom bought Selmers after their 10Ms were stolen and went with the new 9at the time). So in a year maybe I'll be way into this Selmer, or maybe I'll be selling it. Lots of glory days rolled tone hole10Ms out there for under $2k. No Selmers from the glory days for less than $3.5k! So I see this as, maybe it's time for something new.

3 is enough. I like it. Each does inspire a different attitude.

J

Buffet Dynaction tenor saxophone. Why did Selmer come to dominate the French saxophone world?

I'm torn about selling this beauty.....

Why am I torn? It's easily the best sounding tenor I've owned. And it's terrifically in tune to boot. I also find the key work to be super easy.

You often hear the name Buffet being associated with 'classical' horns much like Buescher is. Well, I don't play classical but I guess I prefer 'classical' tenors. Buffet and Buescher are my personal favorites. I find them capable of doing anything. I never feel limited sonically like I do on other horns. I feel the same way about an old Selmer, flexible and capable of expressing you. Other brands I've felt like the horn had too much of it's ego stamp in the way. Kings, 10Ms, lovely horns but hard to get me into the horn and out to the room (for me, I'm open to others who experience differently!).

I just had this horn tuned up and KB Sax in Long Island City. When I went to pick it up I got to play it against a Selmer Balanced and Super Balanced Action tenor. I feel this held it's own with those and had a stronger low end which coming from American tenors, I like very much. I didn't find the key work difficult to switch on either of them with the Balanced being my personal favorite.

We talked about SML, Buffet and Selmer which were all made pretty close to one another, much like the 'big American 3' made in Elkhart Indiana.

How did Selmer come to dominate? They are all fabulous horns. I personally don't dig the feel of an SML though I have played some that had a great sound.

Sonically I found this horn to be rather close to the Selmers I tried that day. Dark center, nice bite though the Selmers won in the brightness department. They all projected similarly. When I tried some of Kim's necks my Buffet simply became a better horn than those 2. Even with the stock neck the intonation is superior though the tone leans towards quite dark.

Like I said I could get around on all of them with ease.

So, I think it may come down to something simple: weight. The Buffets and SML tenors I have played are stupid heavy! The Selmer felt like a toy (No Selmer fanatics, this is not an insult, it's a compliment! I'm a player. I need to have fun playing. I need it to be a balance between a tool and a toy dig????) I owned a Dolnet for a while too. Goddamn! That was a heavy beast! Powerful but I prefer the tone of the Buffet over all of the above.

 I may keep this tenor for studio work, it has a great tone color and I can sit down for that. Or maybe it's time to commit to a gym and lift more weights?! My Buescher and my Conn Transitional have good weight, about the same as the Selmer. I find new horns to be too heavy as well, except for Borgani maybe.

So I'm torn. It's for sale as of now but don't mind it sitting here either. This horn has a helluva sound and is easy to play. If you are looking for one keep that in mind. Yes they are a good Selmer competitor, no they are not a Selmer, they are a Buffet which is great in it's own right. But if you have neck or back issues, keep this in mind!

JB

More on the Holton Revelation tenor saxophone

So I've finally gotten to put this old Holton tenor through some paces. I want to share some impressions as there is a bit of interest in these horns and talk of the price possibly rising.

If you read this, don't worry about all that. These are great bargain horns. There is a reason why some old horns sell for the money they sell for. It's easy to resent the unobtanium, but it's easy to just get on with it and find something you love and play the heck out of it.

That being said, I like my Holton, I don't love it. I love my Buescher Aristocrat from '36 and on some days I love my Conn 10M, also from '36.

I don't really like to write in the "This vs. That" vein, but this may be useful to some who are interested.

Now, there was one of these that sold last year for around $725. You've probably already found the old listing if you happen to be doing a web search on a Holton Revelation tenor. In it the seller says something about his friend the player trying it and comparing it to the legendary Selmer Mk6 and saying it it's comparable in terms of tone and power. Please, don't buy into that. Maybe it's true to the person who wrote it and played it. I'm not a Selmer player but I have played some that made me go "well, if cost were no object, this would be mine!" or "Oh, I get it." I've played plenty that made me just go "meh, whatever" as well. But even those are, well, a step up, a big ass step up from the Holton.

The next is "the poor mans Conn".... No, that's called the Pan American. Those can be really good. And this horn is far different than any Conn I've ever played or owned, and Conn is the horn I've spent the most time on. Different sound altogether, brighter, wider, in some ways richer.

The next one you may have read it "tinny sound and sketchy intonation at best". That one came from an administrator at Sax on the Web apparently.

Let me answer to that. If all I did was spend a few minutes on this horn I would have come to the same conclusion. It is difficult being we are on the wrong side of the horn to really hear ourselves. Some horns I can hear myself better on than others. My Buescher is great that way. Good sense of the note. My Conn, not as good. When I had a Selmer from 1930 that was the only thing that kept me from selling it, great 'sense of the note'. This horn it's difficult to tell how I'm projecting.

Why is that? I don't really know. What I have experienced is this: it's a brighter horn, by far. It reminds me of a Cleveland tenor I once had for a minute, a 30's model. Bright and raunchy. Though this horn blows much better in tune than any King I've played. While I'm not a fan of bright horns in general, I can see this horn having it's place in the studio. The King I had I just couldn't blow in tune, but the sound I got for some nasty section stuff was unbeatable. This covers that base.

I'm not going to get all technical on you, I'll just keep a couple little things that I see. The neck socket is smaller than my Conn or Buescher. Those 2 are interchangeable and about 28.4mm in diameter. The Holton is 28mm. I had a later Collegiate that was wider than my Conn or Buescher! A lot wider. For me difficult to focus that horn.

Also the palm key tone holes are BIG on the Holton. Considerably wider than on my Conn or Buescher. I gotta say, the high end is my favorite part on the Revelation. It has a openness and a complexity upstairs my Conn lacks, and the Buescher can get, believe it or not, a little too rich up there for me! But I'm not complaining. Point being, I feel like I can get lazy with my airstream on the Conn, the Buescher is more demanding of my attention and I can push the core around to my liking. On the Holton with my Early Babbit Super Tone Master piece if I'm lazy what I get is the tin can alley. Not good. But after playing it for an hour I settled in and found if I'm focused and am playing with a really open throat, I get a full sound. It seems this horn just needs me to play with more support. It's just a different experience to fill it up than my other 2. I can't be lazy with this horn. Not a bad thing but not the best for me as some days I like my lazy.

You'll also read about Holton's clunktastic key work. If you are used to old American horns, this model is pretty damned good. Not as fast as my Conn but faster than my Buescher.

Now with any horn some times it's a matter of matching it to the right mouthpiece. I have 2 pieces, my Otto Link metal and an old Brilhart Hard Rubber piece opened up by my man Sakshama up in Queens. The Link is my go to piece. Never selling it. And it's cured my need to seek. When a piece simply solves a problem you may have struggled with for a decade, find the money. It was worth the chunk of change I forked over for it. The Brilhart I go back and forth on. Great player but I'm not 100% stoked on the sound I get, especially on my beloved Buescher. It's very 50's Sonny Rollins. Now, before you laser beam me off the map, Sonny is one of my absolute heroes, and I love his sound especially from that era. It's just such a big ass sound, not what I'm going for. Funny thing is I spent years working towards that, now I'm moving towards my own bag....

So the Brilhart on my Buescher is not my favorite. But I put it on the Holton and it's instant love. Great big, clear, rich tone. It can get too bright and a bit stuffy on my Buescher, on this horn it's the ticket to Hollywood. So if I keep the horn I'll keep that piece. It's a fantastic match.

THE BELL TEST:

My old teacher, W.C. Cage in Portland Oregon used to do this thing whenever I would bring him a new horn. He would tap the bell and compare it to his 10M that he played since the 40's. His horn being tapped was dead. "That's how you can tell a good horn!" he would say, "that metal".  He would tap a horn of mine and you'd hear 'clang, clang, ring' and he'd say to me "dump it!" Oh that used to make me mad. "A good horn has that deadness to the tap".

Now, you're going to get some kind of ring to it, but my Conn and Bueshcer are pretty dead in that department. The Holton rings much louder. The Conn and Buescher make a Bb, the Holton a C. Maybe that's what he meant. Maybe that's what he was listening for? Maybe that's all jive and now in my head. I do know this: the first good horn I had was an old Martin Handcraft. It was dead and a Dodo. He said "You got yourself a good horn!" No brand snobbery, it was a 1930 split bell Handcraft I sold to a friend later on. And yes, Mr Cage was right. That was a really good horn. Just had a great sound and felt solid. The brighter horns I've played and owned don't tend to pass the bell test. Doesn't make them a bad horn, it just makes them not as likable by me.

But like I said, this may be the perfect horn for some recordings I do where I need to sound more raunchy than I do on my other horns. I think this horn gets nastier than my Buescher, and I thought that wasn't possible!

So the only other thing I haven't done yet is use it with my band or on a gig. I'm not sure I trust it enough yet. When my drummer changes a drum head, it can change the way the band sounds. A horn can do that too and it's all about the group sound to me. And like I said, I don't know how it projects. We play acoustically and we can get pretty crazy so I need to be able to get over the top. I do intend to re-pad this horn and my guess is the guts will come out better with that. But bright horns and me are not the best match. Same with bright guitars and amps, that lower mid is important. (funny thing, playing this horn quietly it's all mid heaven, loud is where it brightens up).

So like I said, this is a cool horn. If you are curious about one, I hope this helps. These are very hard to find so if you do buy one, buy it knowing if it needs work you're not going to make any dough flipping it, that is if you don't dig it. It's no Selmer, it's no Conn. If you want a Selmer, save your money and buy one (I can finally afford one myself but would rather put a down on a house and take a vacation! If I can save.......then.......). If you want a Conn, buy a Conn. If you want something different and away from the rest, give one of these a go.

Oh, and some demos:

With Metal Link....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyu1yBG4fCs



With Rubber Brilhart......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2S5slUEqI&t=58s

Enjoy! JB

Holton 213 Revelation tenor saxophone. Cool American Depression era horn!

Ok, Nerding out on the gear stuff. What can I say? It's a fun thing to do therefore a good thing. Maybe someone curious about these rare gems can decide a bit more clearly if they want to try one out or not by reading this little article.

So first off, what is the purpose of a "B" horn, or backup horn? Well, my "A" horn, which is my well loved '36 Buescher Aristocrat, is in the shop at KB Sax getting a tuneup. It has some leaks and I want to take the best care of it as possible. I hate being without that horn. It inspires me to have ideas whenever I pick it up. Bueschers in general do that, something about the sound makes me hear things and reach for them. But alas, I need the work done and I'm without it.

Those aren't expensive horns. I could buy another one easily but, I can't deal with 2 of the same. Why bother? They would still behave differently and it would create still more confusion.

I had 2 Elkharts from that same era in the last 2 years. Both were great and just similar enough with that small bell flare and nice sound. Not as rich but still nice. Stencil horns can be like that...

And the last 2 pics are of the Elkhart necks: The silver one was wonderfully modern with that comfortable upturned thing going on. The other was your classic Elkhart/Bundy/Buescher stencil. Both were original to the horns, a lot of experimenting at the Elkhart plant apparently.....

The trouble with these Elkhart horns is... well, in a pinch when I need the money, is they sell so easily. Best horn I can ask $800 for period. We're talking about the small bell ones from the 30's, not the later ones. These early ones had nice heavy brass and a better sound. Sold the first one to a great player who needed it for his jump blues gig, the second to another great player who was vintage curious and played on a Yamaha for 20 years.

So a "B" horn should for me be closer in tone to my "A" horn, but one that I can lose my ass on if I sell it? Sounds like a plan mate!

I do have a Conn 10M that is really good. But it's what I call a more "cold toned" horn. It's brash and big, loud as can be and of course can ballad it out beautifully, but the Buescher is just a "Warm toned" horn. 10M is a black and white photo, Buescher is a Cyanotype or Sepia photo. I love my 10M in a section on a mic, but I can hear my Buescher better and I love the way it barks to the back of the room.

So let me introduce to you a horn that is worth no money..... the Holton 213 Revelation:

This was Holton's flagship in 1937. Not much information is available on these gems as they made so few and garnered so little respect it seems. My first saxophone was a Holton Collegiate I bought from a friend for $200. It was a great place to start. There is a record with me playing on it out there, couldn't play well then but the tone I got was pretty damn good.

This tenor popped into my life this week on the cheap. It needs work but plays down to Bb well enough. My initial impressions were this: Nice sound but, oh effing no, right about A2 everything goes wicked sharp. Holton and their reputation for poor intonation and I just lost money on a wall hanger. Idiot!

But then I fixed the octave mechanism (upper stack rod needed cleaning and oiling plus one weak spring) and adjusted the funny tuner neck:

Where the tuner thing meets the neck, everything is skinnier than average. I backed off that bit and voila..... pitch locks right in. Now I can give it a real go.

Gotta say, while I don't think this horn has the power of my other 2, I really find the tone immediately likable. It's so warm. Probably warmer than my Buescher. Definitely sepia toned! My Buescher is more Cyan. This horn just has a beautiful voice. What does it remind me of? Immediate West Coast Cool. I want to play Prez, Giuffre, Getz..... What horn does it remind me of the most? I had a Selmer Super Sax from 1930 that sounded very much like this one. It had this pretty high end to it, great mids. This one is much like that horn but with better pitch and a bigger low end. I sold that horn to the chagrin of my band (they loved it, I didn't) cause I couldn't lock in that low end tuning and I'm addicted to the American bottom. This horn so far has both.

This one will be a project for me to learn how to re-pad a horn. It needs it. It's a decent candidate partly cause it has those brazed on tone holes which appear to be more level than most. And there is no body damage.

So what about Holton's key work? I almost bought a Holton Baritone from the 20's last year cause it was cheap, in tune (believe it or not!) and had a huge, belligerent tone when pushed and a beautiful voice when sub-toned. That would have set me back $550 case and all. But the key work was effing awful. No, I mean really bad. I can't imagine them selling any. Our hands haven't evolved at all in thousands of years. How did they mess that up so badly????

But by this point they got it together. It feels just as good/bad as any American horn. It's more fluid than my Buescher, my 10M is just plain fast. Like I said, the octave key is goofy but we'll see if that can be sorted out. I think it can.

The low Eb and C keys have a nice angle to them, something Buescher didn't get to for another few years and Conn never got to. The right hand is really comfortable.

The G# cluster is much like a Conn New Wonder series 1 from 1921 or so. Nothing offensive. I work better with these types of clusters. G# is not articulated, which I like too. The palm keys are far better than either my Conn or Buescher. They nailed that! No need for risers!!!!

And I love the design of the key guards. Classy high ball styling!

The engraving is lovely. And odd. A carry over from the Jazz Age, more Art Nouveau, less Art Deco:

Where this horn wins it beauty. This is the prettiest horn I think I've ever seen and it may be one of the prettiest horns I've ever heard. The lacquer has a gorgeous copper color to it. The keys appear to be silver plated but with a thin coat of the same lacquer over it, thin enough so that it's see through creating a striking presence. It's hard to tell if that is the color of the lacquer or whether that's the color of the metal. The neck has lost most of it's lacquer revealing the metal which shows it to have a high copper content. Very red brass.

I won't know how it sits with a band until I try it with the group, but that'll have to wait until it's fixed up and my Buescher is back in the shop.

People have referred these as a "Poor man's Conn". No. I don't buy that. And, Conn's aren't expensive at all, not even a good one if you don't need a pretty one. This horn does not have that big Conn sound, it has it's own unique thing going on that is worthy of a try if you like old horns. It's got good guts, which I need, and it's got that warmth that I really need. I think it's a good match to my Buescher. Every bit as inspiring to play. And if I fix it up and try to sell it, I'm likely to lose my ass on this one so that is a plus!!

One thing I'm really starting to like is the high register. On my Buescher it's a chameleon. I can get a close approximation of a wooden flute up there. That's difficult to achieve on my Conn. It's easy on this Holton. Of course some folks are like: "well why would you want that? My sax needs to sound like a sax!!!" to which I say thank God I'm not you and you're not me. We all like different things. The sax is one of the most flexible instruments in this world. I've gotten human voice tones from my Buescher, and of course, when I want to sound like a sax I do, it is after all, a sax right?

One wonders why Holton saxes never caught on the way the "big 4" did. Was it advertising? Or lack of hype? Or was it what Buffet did which was make the best clarinets in the world and let Selmer make the best saxes. Holton made superior trombones and other brass instruments already so why do too much? Really, that makes total sense to me. But I'm glad they did. It makes the world of old saxophones that much more diverse and interesting.

JB

3 tenors... '36 Aristocrat, '36 10M and 50's Buffet Dynaction!

"Brownie, your problem is you were raised with too much!" said my dear friend David Ackerman to me one drizzly afternoon in Portland. I knew he was right. My dear teacher W.C. Cage owned 3 tenors since 1946. His 10M which he played till he died in 2009, a Yamaha student model which he lent out and the guy sold for drugs, and a late 40's Buescher Aristocrat big B that he didn't like at all, he just bought it cause it was pretty and the pawn shop down in down in Clarksdale Mississippi sold it to him for $200 in 2005. It was pretty. New condition with all the tags and original case, mouthpiece etc.

His 10M was the best ever. I coveted that horn for years as we went over melodies. I told myself I would buy one if I could find one as good as his. I did. I own it. And, it's my rainy day horn for when my Aristocrat is in the shop.

I do have too much. I was raised middle class in the United States of America. I'm also un married. My mother used to tell me that if a man gets to be 40 and ain't married, he surrounds himself with stuff. Goddammit. She may have been right! My high school guitar teacher had a house full of expensive classical guitars....

But I live in a small apartment in Brooklyn now. Makes the rotating door easier. One comes in, one goes out. I don't want too much stuff.

So this post is a bit about the 3 horns I have. It's for the equipment junky and the person looking for some insights into what to buy. All these insane years have given me a lot of knowledge to share about different instruments. I suppose that's just a part of my musician. I'm curious about sound and I'm always reaching for something better....

My #1 tenor is my '36 Buescher Aristocrat.

What do I love so much about this horn? I've determined these are simply the best horn for me, and this is the best one I've played. It sports a pretty silver plated neck and has a lovely gold plated octave key. The neck is probably from an early 40's Aristocrat, it's shorter than the later 156 neck or 400 neck and is a great match for this horn.

This horn just has something about the sound that I love. It's got a lot of guts. There's a bunch of bollocks about these being "classical" tenors. Nah, they can do anything you want and when I push this horn it just gets nasty as can be. Filthy. Disgusting. Overly emotional. Much nastier than my very hyped 10M, which is hyped not without good reason. They deserve the hype. Buescher saxes get very little hype, especially these early ones.

This horn cuts too. With my Early Babbit Otto Link Super Tone Master I can get over anything while never losing my sense of the note, which makes playing it in tune easy. I can hear myself and it has a nice 'back pressure'. You know, that feeling there is a bit of a donut in the horn just fighting you in the right way. I can get any tone out of this horn. I can sound like a flute, a bassoon, a baby, an opera singer and of course, a sax. The most versatile tenor I've ever owned.

You'll notice the big ass neck screw. I bought one for this horn and my 10M. They are made by Meridian Winds and advertised as 'ergonomic'. I agree with that. I like tightening them. Feels substantial. But, I bought them cause I like a little bling. They're pretty. I like a good watch, shoes, rings, a little dressing up is hot. Does this thing affect the sound? I admit I bought it when all that buzz was going on about the buzz screws. At first I thought it did do something, just the opposite of buzz, in fact a bit of buzz kill. Which I liked. I tried my old screws later and found no difference.

This horn gets my vibe, my sound and allows me to express myself my way. Out of the 3, it has the crappiest key work (sorry 10M, you don't get to be dissed in this post!). But for the sound, it's worth it. I should also mention. I moved around a bit as a child. I'm highly adaptable. Give me a minute on each horn and I do fine. I do understand those who can't adapt though too.

I should mention too, this horn was de-snapped and mounted with those Selmer type plastic resonators. That kills some collector value but, I call jive to the playability bit. I sought this horn out and bought it because it was de-snapped! If I need to change a pad I can pop in whatever I like. I can find a lazy tech on the road who hates the snappos and he or she can have me going in minutes. I don't like things that limit my choices. If I find another one that is de-snapped I may pick it up too. These horns can be had for cheap which is lucky for me and you.

But Jef, who famous played one of these? Ike Quebec. Enough said! Listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJou_YPgbgI

So dare to be different and check one of these babies out.

My next horn is new to me. A 50's Buffet Dynaction....

I wasn't so sure about this horn until today. I've been playing it all day long. There are 2 basic types of sound/feels to me on tenor. Old and New. The Chu I played for a decade had that old thing: big fundamental, bellows like a big dog. Dark with that voluptuous voice. My 10M has it, my Aristocrat a bit less. There are some horns like the '46 Big B I owned for a while, the Martin Committee 2 I owned, the Selmer Cigar Cutter that I owned, these had that more 'refined' thing. Hard to describe nut I'll try. Dark and airy in the middle but with a nice, bright open edge to it. Make sense? It's just a different experience to play it. My Martin Handcraft Standard that I owned, old sound. Just big. I understand that sound and how to work it since I played old Conns for so many years. Horns like this, or a Selmer, I don't understand at all. My Committee 2 same thing. Lovely horn but I didn't get it. There's a lushness I don't exactly understand, almost like the sound is coming from a different place than I'm used to.

With my Otto Link I don't like this horn so much. Too clear, too big. But last night I put my Brilhart Hard Rubber piece (Sakshama re-face) on it and BOOM! Instant 'Blue Trane" era John.

The negative things said about these horns, they are stuffy, too dark, only good for classical yadda yadda, that's simply not true. And this is an earlier Dynaction, not the later bolder and brighter Super Dynaction. This horn has a tone not unlike the Super Balanced Action I recently played that was priced at $10k. I paid a bit more than 1/10 of that price for this horn.

Some horns, and this includes Selmer, or, really any horn, it's maddening. Important to match the right mouthpiece with the horn itself. This horn has a very big sound, but a different quality of big than my American horns. I think a more spread, maybe even a crappier new NY Otto Link piece would do it right. For what I want, it needs a spread piece. My Link has a great focus which works so well on my naturally spread Aristocrat and, well, less spread 10M.

I don't know what the "French" sound that people talk about is but I gotta say, this horn comes hauntingly close to my favorite Clifford Jordan recordings. He's one of my heroes. That makes me happy. Is it a keeper? Jury is out. My rule for this is buy cheap so you can check out and not lose any money. I'm not in love with this one yet but it's growing on me, fast.

If it sticks around it'll be my session horn where I want to sound a bit more like someone else. And no, I don't buy the "it's the player, not the horn" argument. It's both. Why would you choose one horn over another? The first thing that grabs me is the sound I get. This horn isn't my sound, but it's a very, very likable sound.

Who played these? Who cares? Try one and see if you like it. Albert Ayler enjoyed a Super Dynaction. I love his sound. David S Ware enjoyed an S1.....


This one I bought from Hammer Woodwinds in Pennsylvania. Great shop! They did a great overhaul on it and the horn is cracking! Has those funny screw in "cymbal" resonators in there.

Which leads me to one more point. Do the snap resonators make a difference? Do the screw in cymbal hat resonators make a difference? How important is original equipment?

Well, my next and last horn is my 10M. It has no resonators. I've played some that had oversized expensive resonators that were dead tenors. My 10M cuts like a Ginsu folks. It's just a good one. When I get it re-padded I may just go with the smallest thing I can go with. It is the darkest horn of the lot but even as is, the thing soars over whatever I need it to.

Me and my 10M:

Not much to say about this horn as these are already hyped. All they say is true. Big ass sound, great intonation (all 3 tenors have great intonation!) and for me, the fastest keys. I know some folks find them unbearable, but I came up on Conns. There is a reason for their often high prices. I got mine cheap. It's every bit as good as my old teachers horn.

Soundwise it's quite different than the other 2. More clear than my Aristocrat and less expressive but the thing is just a blast to play. It is the darkest of the 3 horns.

You can hear numerous examples of folks playing these, Lester Young, Jerry Bergonzi, Sal Nistico, Dexter Gordon.

I'll leave with a little bit about perception and the brain. I tried all the tricks to get around practicing. Silver plate my neck for more 'focus and depth' and swear that did the trick until months later when I'd have to admit that I'm not sure if anything changed at all and that I'm struggling with the same things. Silver, gold plated and bare brass saxes swearing that did this or that.

My 10M is a re-lacquered horn. It was done a long time ago. When I first got it I thought it was such an ugly color, like that 70's Yamaha student pale yellow lacquer, that I was determined to have it stripped. Then this 1974 Yanagisawa came through my life. It had that horrific bright, pale look to it. Next to that horn I could see that beautiful golden honey color my 10M is. I cannot see it as anything other than beautiful when I look at it now. My perception has shifted entirely. The mind is a curious and complex thing. I do wonder when I see someone playing on a silver Mk6, and I've been told those are bright and stuffy, that's what I hear cause that's what I've been told. But reality speaks differently. I only hear good music if I like the music I hear, and hear good sound if I like the sound I hear. It's all a part of the journey and it's a beautiful journey. The best part of it? The actual practicing and playing part.

When my mind drifts and I start craving something else, I pick up my Aristocrat and play for 10 minutes. My mind gets real quiet then. I have all that I need. And I'm blessed to be able to share some music with this world. My Aristocrat is my subtle knife. It cuts holes in space and time......

JB